The GOAT French Montana and Max B Conversation: New York, Hip-Hop, Jewelry, Wrestling, and Unfiltered Stories

What happens when two larger-than-life personalities French Montana and Max B sit down and start debating the “GOAT” of everything?

You get a conversation filled with New York culture, hip-hop history, ridiculous stories, fashion, wrestling, relationships, food, and plenty of laughter.

The conversation jumps from chopped cheese and New York anthems to Jay-Z and Nas, celebrity crushes, jewelry, wrestling finishers, rap beefs, conspiracy theories, mixtapes, and financial advice. The result is less of a traditional interview and more of a free-flowing celebration of culture and personality.

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French Montana and Max B It Starts With a New York Bodega Debate

The first major debate is appropriately New York: What would a GOAT-level bodega order look like?

The answer comes quickly: a Philly cheesesteak with cooked onions, fries, and a Coke.

But the conversation takes a turn when the price of groceries in Manhattan comes up. A simple shopping trip involving a newspaper, eggs, organic milk, and orange juice reportedly costs around $200.

That leads to another New York classic: the chopped cheese.

For one of them, the ideal combination is a chopped cheese with chips — barbecue or salt and vinegar. Simple, affordable, and unmistakably New York.

What Is the Greatest New York Anthem?

The discussion then moves into music.

Jay-Z's “My Name Is Hov” gets recognition as a serious New York club anthem, while Nas also enters the conversation. But the debate quickly becomes bigger than simply naming a hit record.

The question becomes: What song truly represents New York?

The answer leans toward records that capture the city's identity and the spirit of its neighborhoods and hip-hop communities.

Songs associated with The LOX, Dipset, and the classic New York mixtape era become part of the conversation. The emphasis isn't necessarily on the most commercially successful record — it's about authenticity.

For these two, the greatest New York anthem has to feel like New York.

Jewelry, Prison, and Making America Wavy Again

The conversation takes another turn when jewelry comes up.

One of the standout pieces is described as something fit for a king, with comparisons to the extravagant style seen in movies like Coming to America.

But behind the jewelry is a deeper story.

The conversation touches on how much one's style can change after spending time in prison. Coming home and seeing the amount of jewelry, fashion, and movement surrounding the culture becomes part of a larger transformation.

The “Make America Wavy Again” movement gets a shout-out, along with the artists and jewelers behind the pieces.

There is also plenty of joking about extravagant custom jewelry, including a memorable spinning gun-themed piece.

The Ultimate WWE Finishing Move

Naturally, the conversation eventually lands on professional wrestling.

Both participants reveal themselves as serious wrestling fans.

Stone Cold Steve Austin's Stunner gets mentioned, but The Undertaker's entrance and finishing move receive serious GOAT consideration. Kevin Nash's famous powerbomb also gets its flowers.

Then comes the important question:

If you had your own wrestling finishing move, what would it be?

The answer is appropriately extravagant: the “Wavy Power Driver.”

The imagined move involves water, spinning, and a dramatic powerbomb-style finish before the final three-count.

It's exactly the kind of ridiculous creativity that makes the conversation work.

Dating Advice: Keep It Simple

When the topic turns toward relationships and pickup lines, the advice is surprisingly straightforward.

Forget complicated lines.

“What's your name?” and “How are you doing?” are apparently enough.

The conversation becomes funnier when exaggerated pickup lines involving words like “scrumptious,” “succulent,” and “supple” enter the discussion.

The conclusion?

Sometimes the best approach is simply being yourself.

And if you're already married, the advice gets even simpler: stay faithful.

The Jewelry Isn't the Only Thing Fit for a King

The conversation repeatedly returns to style and image, but there's an interesting contrast between the flashy present and the past.

One participant explains that before going to prison, he didn't have the kind of fine jewelry he has today.

Coming home changed that.

Jewelry becomes more than an accessory. It's part of a new chapter, a symbol of success, reinvention, and the ability to express yourself after a difficult period.

Celebrity Crushes and Childhood Favorites

Then things get considerably more chaotic.

The two discuss celebrity crushes, with Karu­che Tran receiving a shout-out.

The conversation then goes back to childhood crushes and the celebrities who shaped their early ideas of beauty and pop culture.

Names connected to Prince's era, Pamela Anderson, and Foxy Brown come up, followed by plenty of jokes.

Eventually, the conversation reaches the Kardashian family — and predictably, the answers become even more complicated.

It's less about finding one definitive answer and more about watching the two personalities try to explain their choices without getting themselves into trouble.

The GOAT Hook and the Song Everyone Wishes They Wrote

One of the more serious musical discussions centers around the greatest hooks in hip-hop.

“Unforgettable” is singled out as a hook that continues to sound better with time.

The admiration is clear: some records are so effective that trying to compete with them almost feels pointless.

The same song comes up again when discussing the record each person wishes they had written.

It's a reminder that even artists with extensive catalogs can hear another record and think, I wish that one was mine.

The Greatest Diss Track: “Ether”

When the conversation reaches rap beef, there is an obvious contender: Nas' “Ether.”

The reason is simple.

Nas wasn't afraid to challenge Jay-Z at the height of his power.

The discussion emphasizes how significant the Jay-Z and Nas rivalry was for hip-hop. It wasn't simply two rappers throwing insults at each other. There was genuine admiration and respect underneath the competition.

The rivalry ultimately became part of hip-hop history.

For the culture, it was bigger than either artist.

A Phone Call With Vin Diesel

One of the funniest stories involves a phone call with actor Vin Diesel.

The story begins with a casual conversation and eventually turns into multiple calls with Diesel.

The surreal nature of the situation is what makes the story so entertaining. One minute they're talking normally, and the next they're joking about having Vin Diesel on the phone while other people are around.

The story perfectly captures the unexpected connections that can come from being part of entertainment and hip-hop culture.

The Ultimate Blunt Rotation

The conversation then moves into another classic debate: who belongs in the ultimate smoking rotation?

Wiz Khalifa and Snoop Dogg are obvious choices.

Snoop is described as the essential addition — the “Uncle” who simply has to be there.

The conversation quickly becomes exaggerated, with stories about enormous blunts, questionable combinations, and getting unexpectedly high.

It's another example of the chemistry between the two: one story leads to another, and before long, everyone is laughing.

Tupac, Aliens, and Conspiracy Theories

The GOAT conversation eventually enters conspiracy-theory territory.

One of the most famous theories gets mentioned: the idea that Tupac survived the shooting and secretly lived elsewhere.

The discussion recalls how seriously some people took the theory for years.

Then the subject turns to aliens.

Could someone secretly be an alien?

The answer comes with a joke: perhaps one of them is secretly from an exoplanet.

The absurdity is clearly intentional, but it fits perfectly with the unpredictable nature of the conversation.

The Greatest Rap Beef

When asked about the greatest rap beef, the conversation returns to some of hip-hop's most important rivalries.

Jay-Z and Nas are obvious contenders, while 50 Cent's legendary rivalries also get mentioned.

The important point isn't simply who “won.”

Great rap beefs can push artists creatively, generate unforgettable records, and create moments that become permanently embedded in hip-hop culture.

Financial Advice: Make Your Money Work for You

Surprisingly, the financial discussion becomes one of the more thoughtful parts of the conversation.

The basic advice is simple:

Save your money until your money can make money for you.

The goal isn't necessarily to show everyone how much you have. In fact, there is an argument for keeping your finances private and avoiding the appearance of excessive wealth.

The ultimate goal is financial independence — reaching a point where your investments generate enough income to support your lifestyle.

It's a simple idea, but one that carries a lot of weight.

From Prison to Cooking for an Entire Wing

One of the most interesting stories comes when cooking becomes the topic.

One participant reveals that he learned to cook and even prepared an elaborate meal while incarcerated.

The meal included things such as shrimp fried rice, salmon, chicken, and egg rolls.

What makes the story memorable is the setting.

Cooking a full feast in a limited prison environment required creativity and resourcefulness. After putting everything together, there was a moment of disbelief: somehow, the meal actually worked.

It became a celebration before his release.

The GOAT Mixtape

For New York hip-hop fans, the mixtape conversation is particularly important.

Coke Boys 6 is mentioned as a project that helped get someone through a difficult period.

Other projects and artists from the New York mixtape era also receive recognition, including work associated with Chinx, Harry Fraud, Dipset, and the broader 145th Street mixtape culture.

The larger point is clear: mixtapes were fundamental to New York hip-hop.

Before streaming platforms dominated music discovery, mixtapes were how artists built reputations, neighborhoods discovered new sounds, and entire movements grew.

The Hip-Hop Mount Rushmore

Every hip-hop conversation eventually reaches the impossible question:

Who belongs on Mount Rushmore?

The answers include Tupac, The Notorious B.I.G., Jay-Z, and other legendary figures, with each person having their own personal five.

And that's the problem with a hip-hop Mount Rushmore: there are simply too many legends.

Every generation has its favorites, and every artist brings a different argument to the table.

There may never be one universally accepted list.

The Wildest Rumors

The conversation gets particularly unfiltered when they discuss rumors they've heard about themselves.

One story involves an outrageous rumor about someone's anatomy.

Instead of simply denying it, the person tells a story about a woman asking to verify the rumor for herself.

The story ends exactly how you would expect: with everyone laughing.

It's one of those moments where the conversation stops feeling like a formal interview and starts sounding like two friends telling stories in a room.

The Worst Purchases

When asked about the worst purchase they've ever made, one answer is an expensive vehicle.

The response isn't exactly regretful, though.

The vehicle is defended as being essentially a luxury hotel on wheels.

Meanwhile, the other participant jokingly argues that the worst purchase might have been ordering a Philly cheesesteak in New York.

That joke brings the conversation full circle to where it began: food and the eternal New York debate over what belongs on a cheesesteak.

Has Music Gotten Worse — or Just Different?

The final serious conversation is about the evolution of music.

One perspective argues that modern music has moved toward heavily distorted production, louder sounds, and styles that feel dramatically different from the music they grew up with.

But there's an important acknowledgment: nostalgia can influence how people judge music.

The other perspective is more optimistic.

Instead of saying music has become worse, the argument is that music has simply changed.

Drill, trap, newer sounds, and other modern genres are part of the culture's natural evolution.

The best solution, they suggest, is for generations to listen to each other's music.

Older listeners can explore newer genres, while younger listeners can discover Marvin Gaye, Bobby Womack, Millie Jackson, and other influential artists from previous generations.

The goal is to bridge the gap rather than create a wall between generations.

The Real GOAT Takeaway

By the end of the conversation, one thing becomes obvious: there isn't really a single GOAT.

There are GOATs in music, food, fashion, wrestling, storytelling, entrepreneurship, and culture.

The conversation works because it doesn't try to settle every debate.

Instead, it celebrates the arguments themselves.

From New York bodega orders and chopped cheese to legendary rap beefs, unforgettable hooks, mixtapes, jewelry, wrestling, celebrity stories, and wild conspiracy theories, the discussion is ultimately a celebration of personality and culture.

And perhaps that's the real lesson:

The GOAT isn't always the person with the most trophies. Sometimes, the GOAT is simply the person who can make the conversation unforgettable.